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A traffic stop for speeding Wednesday in Queen Anne's County led police to raid a large marijuana-growing operation the next morning in a home near an elementary school on the Broadneck Peninsula. 
Courtesy photoCounty police and members of the Queen Anne's County Drug Task Force seized 11.5 pounds of processed marijuana, 76 marijuana plants, three long guns and $187,000 in cash from the Broadneck Peninsula home of Jeffrey Louis Windsor on Wednesday. Find Us On Facebook
But even more shocking to prosecutors than the 11.5 pounds of processed marijuana, 76 marijuana plants, three long guns and $187,000 in cash seized in the operation was that their prime suspect showed up yesterday at the Maryland State Police Centreville Barrack to ask for his stuff back. "I couldn't believe he was really there," Deputy State's Attorney John Mark McDonald said of 35-year-old Jeffrey Louis...
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Cigarettes - 2009-12-30 13:42:24
Marijuana is always demonized as being a "gateway drug". It's been my experience that cigarettes are THE gateway drug. I tried cigarettes YEARS before I ever tried marijuana. And I've never seen marijuana make people fight with each other the way alcohol does. I've seen drunken confrontations, never stoned ones. Pot users hug it out while drunks beat the tarnation out of each other. However, I'm still shaking my head at the thought of this fellow going to the barracks to retrieve the seized items. I'm curious to know if he was asking for his guns back or the whole lot...
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addiction? - 2009-12-27 12:30:09
the addiction argument makes zero sense, considering that ALCOHOL and TOBACCO are both legal to purchase for adults - and both are highly addictive to many people...
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Re: Gund - - 2009-12-26 23:15:54
Why not legalize its use in public places. I already have to take my life into my own hands everynight driving by dozens of bars filled with alcoholic drug addicts. What exactly does the police think all of those people are doing in there? I dont see a line of taxi cabs waiting to drive them home each nigh. And for that matter I dont see any police monitoring all of the alcoholic drug addicts and upholding the drunk driving laws. I guess it much simpler to wrestle a peaceful pot head to the ground rather that some violent alcoholics.
What would happen if Marijuana was legalized:
Stocks in Smith and Wesson would plummet. Violence would be a thing of the past. Dunkin donuts stock would skyrocket and people would be healthy and happy again. People like Gund would be better informed.
Marijuana is not addictive. A person can smoke every day of there life, leave the country on vacation for 2 months and never once experience temors, black outs, foaming of the mouth or any of the other gruesome things that alcoholics and crack heads experience.
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fred - 2009-12-25 01:03:56
Try asking an addict who has been through physical withdrawal.
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Re: Gund - 2009-12-24 23:33:22
You say that you do not want to name the "medical professionals" who could add legitimacy to your argument because you do not want to engage in a debate. . . yet you are still making your points, just without backing them.
I'm sorry to hear that people close to you have fallen victim to drug abuse. However, to blame the abuse of cocaine and barbituates on experimenting with pot seems to be forcing a connection that does not exist. I'm sure that your friends partook in any number of potentially dangerous behaviors all of which we could call a "gateway."
In response to your comment regarding a "contact high," nowhere in my previous post did I argue for legalization of marijuana, nor did I suggest that I would support smoking in public places. My point was simply that I think it is a mistake that we place marijuana (for which there is little evidence of physical addiction and ABSOLUTELY ZERO cases of overdoses) into the same category as heroin and cocaine. The physical dependency, hazardous withdrawal, and potential to overdose on these drugs (as well as the perfectly LEGAL alcohol) is NOT THE SAME as marijuana.
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The true gateway - 2009-12-24 20:33:04
It is a proven fact that all drug addicts were once children. Being born is the gateway to drug addiction not a plant. And as far as cannabis sativa use leading to physical addiction, I do not believe that has ever been proven. If those that made such a statement could supply a few citations, I would be very interested. I do not believe any reputable sources have proven a physical dependence.
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Average Waiter - 2009-12-24 19:01:55
The NORML Studies and Statistics on Marijunana use have been proven by Accredited Addiction Specialists to be Self Serving and once again I'm not going to name these Medical Professionals because once again it's going to turn into a half*** debate and I'm not wasting my time.
You obviously didn't read my rant because I didn't loop "All" Marijuana users into one category rather close and personal friends of mine who took the road from Marijuana users to full blown drug addicts.
Two Examples:
Michelle: She started off smoking pot,graduated to Cocaine/Phena-Barbitols and wound up in re-hab with cuts on her fingertips and near fatal seizures from withdrawal.
Dan: Stand up guy. Very Dear friend of mine. Master Carpenter. 3/4 of his $17.50 salary went up his nose. He started out smoking Marijuana.
If you're going to make an apples and oranges argument for Marijuana Legalization remember this coming from a true Hypocrite.
People complain about second hand smoke so now all bars have banned smoking. If we were sitting together could you get drunk by watching me drink? No. Marijuana is an inhalant and yes "contact highs" DO EXIST. so wherein lies the argument.
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Gunderson - 2009-12-24 14:56:31
Gunderson - you are quick to criticize the NORML studies and statistics which show that marijuana is far less dangerous than society treats it, but you fail to offer any studies supporting your theory that all marijuana users end up addicts, in rehab, or dead. If you think that all the people you know who have ever smoked pot ended up addicted or dead, you are extremely misinformed.
My biggest problem with marijuana prohibition is its classification as a Schedule I controlled substance, alongside heroin, ecstasy, and PCP. I think we send a terrible message to our youth when we tell them that marijuana is just as dangerous as these other drugs. If a kid experiments with pot and realizes it is not NEARLY as "horrible" as all the public service announcements and anti-drug campaigns make it out to be, that kid is much less likely to listen to warnings about other drugs. In his mind, if they lied about pot, what makes them tell the truth about heroin or e? I think we are doing a disservice to our youth by placing pot alongside these other substances which are FAR FAR FAR more dangerous and highly addictive.
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Number one rule - 2009-12-23 20:33:58
I you have drugs, if you are transporting drugs drive the speed limit, don't go 20 miles over the limit and they say why you stop me. Criminals are stupid.I was in court one day the drug dealers lawyer is claiming racial profiling, young black man in a fancy car, what the lawyer left out and the cop cleared up was the fancy car was doing 90 on 95 and the rear tag was missing. And the drugs in the trunk he did not know how they got there.
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Steve - 2009-12-23 20:26:26
guess your reunions are a hoot.
I am 50 and smoked pot in high school, alot of us did. And some of us did much more but at a point most of us moved forward. We became teachers and business owners and have enjoyed life as responsible people, we have raised children who have become productive people. Did we lose some to addiction of course we did. But such is life it happens. I very seldom drink, have no desire to do drugs but I spent a few years in a drug fueled coma. Do I regret it, nope would I care to do it now, nope. People need to pull themselves together, but I am sure if it was not pot it would be drinking that would have had the same effect on your friends. It's not weed that made them that way, it is them. Sounds like they were pre-disposed, was addiction already in their family? Probably. Same for all the hype around gambling addiction people that cannot control their urges put themselves in their situation. Don't blame the drug or the drink or the gambling blame the person!!
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Dont bug me, stupid! - 2009-12-23 19:26:59
From the pattern of articles on pot busts over the last few years, I can give you some rules that will keep you from getting busted.
1. Do not smoke pot and drive, the impaired driving is the number one cause of public outcry and therefore search and seizure.
2. Don't mix your pot with harder drugs, the feds will come after you.
3. Do not mix drugs and guns, you will go to jail twice as long and twice as fast.
4. And last but not least, do not traffic women to hide the cash, you will leave a trail and it will be found.
Of course these are probably the reasons why people do this stuff anyway, so best save your cash for a good lawyer.
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Tyler - 2009-12-23 13:22:14
You are correct, there is a physical dependency. What I meant to say is that the chemical dependency created by weed is not nearly as great as that created by alcohol, nicotine and other drugs.
I do believe that long-term marijuana use is detrimental to the body. But long-term use of any drug, including alcohol, is detrimental to a person's health. I just don't believe marijuana is the horrid, life-destroying evil entity that the DEA would have us believe. The drug of choice for any addict has a direct effect on their life, absolutely. But I don't think that the deleterious effects of marijuana can be lumped into the same category as cocaine, heroin, and meth. Those work on the body chemistry in different ways and are far more addictive and destructive.
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It Cracks Me Up - 2009-12-23 04:42:08
When people argue for legalization of Marijuana. They talk about the benefits of legalized weed,how alcohol and cigarettes are more deadly and addictive,Blah Blah Blah,Yadda Yadda Yadda. Then they start quoting the statistics which are clearly straight out of the NORML (National Organization For Reforming Marijuana Laws) Handbook.
What these Genuises don't tell you is that the statistics on drug related crime and addiction are staggering and while I'm not about to get into some half*** debate with every stoner on this board I can offer you this.
I'm 46 years old and have never done drugs in my life but every person I know who started out with that cute little Junior High School drug called Marijuana graduated to stronger more powerful drugs and to this day is either:
(A) Still Addicted.
(B) In Re-Hab
(C) Dead.
Lastly I will say this.
Frankly I don't care what you do with your body It's your life but do others a big favor and don't bring your personal politics into their life.
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Response - 2009-12-22 19:51:45
@Tyler: I am sorry to say that you are misinformed. Marijuana is not an addictive substance. Individuals who develop a psychological dependency are individuals who would have formed a psychological dependency with any drug of choice.
This year roughly 11,500 have died in the US from alcohol related deaths. Marijuana? 0
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CL C - 2009-12-22 14:50:20
Good post.
The concentration of THC in available marijuana these days can be as high as 36%. People are finding ways to make it more potent. It has significant short term side effects and long-term risks. And while the dependency is largely psychological, there is a documented physical dependency. I understand your belief that it is more harm to society than alcohol. That may very well be. Unfortunately, since pot isn't legal, we don't have adequate stats to truly debate that point. I agree that people with addictive personalities are more likely to become substance abusers. But the drug they choose absolutely will make an impact on the outcome. Someone who is a meth user, black tar heroin user, etc. can spiral out of control and lose everything in a matter of months.
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To Mr. Johnson - 2009-12-22 13:17:22
The active component in marijuana (THC) doesn't create a chemical dependency in the body the way other substances, such as alcohol and nicotine, do. Persons with addictive personalities have the potential to become addicts, whether they use pot, coke, alcohol or coffee. I think it's less about the substance they use and more about their penchant for addiction. I'd much rather see pot legal and alcohol illegal. In terms of damage to lives and bodies, alcohol is far more detrimental to society overall.
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Harry - 2009-12-22 12:19:19
You left out the part, about the guy going to the cops and wanting his stuff back.
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Brain food - 2009-12-22 12:02:27
Your driving along....carrying a bag of pot, wad of cash, cell phone with pictures of your illegal product and going twenty miles an hour over the speed limit? Sounds like he was testing the product, when he should have been smoking a stogie. He had the opportunity to remove the 'evidence' from his home, HELLO! Did he consider $300,000 insignificant? The home will probably be forfeited. Mr. Windsor is not the brightest bulb on the tree.
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Poor Guy - 2009-12-22 09:51:03
What the heck? The man was a major drug dealer. Read the article! This is not a recreational user.
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legalizing - 2009-12-22 09:41:04
I would agree that the case for legalizing has some merit. However, I believe marijuana is addictive. I've witnessed it destroy potential, and essentially the future, of people who couldn't control their use.
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failed prohibition - 2009-12-22 09:39:21
continuing to keep marijuana illegal is a failed prohibition...how much taxpayer $$ are spent each year on enforcement and incarceration when both the state and federal gov't could be making HUGE tax revenues??..it should be just like alcohol, over 21 and tax it like crazy...
i don't smoke, nor would i if it were legal...
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This - 2009-12-22 09:11:56
poor guy gets busted twice bet he ends getting 40 years for pot, while murderers, rapist, baby killers, etc do less time. At least that seems to be the case in this county lately.
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"Legalize it" - 2009-12-20 13:46:03
...not decriminalize but legalize, tax and control. The only people really profiting now are the big time dealers/growers, all involved in the black market AND the government...drug enforcement is huge business (lawyers,DEA, private prisons, etc.). Marijuana is god's gift to man. It's the most useful plant on earth and no, it's not addictive. Only learning about marijuana is addictive. How long can the government and big pharma sustain the huge lie that this weed has no purpose or "business" becoming legalized. FYI - I do not smoke pot but I do consider myself educated and rational citizen.
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Illegal - 2009-12-20 07:49:11
I'd be the first to say go ahead and legalize it, but as of now, it's illegal. If you're going to deal it, be prepared to do the time. I can understand why its illegal but it would be a great source of income for the state and its affect (both intoxication and dependency) on you is not a strong as alcohol.
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Mother nature - 2009-12-19 17:58:31
It is truly a shame and a sham to penalize someone for growing and harvesting a plant. It is a plant, not a gun, not a bomb, it is a plant.
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Cash Crop... - 2009-12-19 17:04:01
Those Windsor Farm folks simply were born to harvest the earth's natural bounty!
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I don't understand - 2009-12-19 12:49:48
It's a plant. What is the big deal ?
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hmmm........... - 2009-12-19 09:43:32
i've heard of people having a bad day but getting arrested twice on the same day is definately.......having a bad day.....
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